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all right we are live ladies and

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gentlemen welcome back to the den of

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lore

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it's been a uh Whirlwind couple of weeks

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anything from being sick because the

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kids bring something home or just

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renovation pre-sale post sale birthday

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hilarity so

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uh Chuck thank you very much for joining

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us and joining me this afternoon it has

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been a while since I've had a chance to

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talk to you for anybody who isn't aware

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uh Chuck wad I know Miss Chuck but uh

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everyone else can call him Charles P

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Odell who is a

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he's a retired Canadian Aviator uh as

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well as Navy service servicemen an avid

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impact crater researcher who is based in

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my hometown uh Ottawa Canada as you can

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also probably see from our past videos

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he's one of the few guests I have

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actually had in studio

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um where we've enjoyed enjoy the good

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very good

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uh he's also a member of the Royal

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Astronomical Society of Canada and the

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Ottawa center for rasc through his

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website creatorexplorer.ca Mr O'Dell

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shares his passion for Earth's

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geological history providing in-depth

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documentation and stunning photography

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of impact craters in Canada and Beyond

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well let me be the first person to raise

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a toast to you and welcome you back in

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some of

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the people that we've had at home

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you were the first person besides

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Randall Carlson who really knew about

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the younger dryas impact hypothesis and

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and your own researches uh either

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on-site or

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you know via any of the researchers that

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that were out there

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but a lot of people that are you know

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finding our Channel Down may not know a

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lot of your backgrounds so you know

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Chuck how did you get into

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researching creators and and stumbling

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into the younger dryas hypothesis

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yeah that okay a long story uh you got

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three or four hours

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okay if um some of the guys my age uh

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before your time there was in the black

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and white TV there was a program called

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front page challenge

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long long time ago and on there uh Dr

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Amin from the Royal Ontario Museum was

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on and he had just finished a um a

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project exploration uh exploration trip

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up to the Chubb crater it was called

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Chubb at the time up in Northern Quebec

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there was absolutely no access to it

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before so they had to rent a pby and all

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kinds of stuff now the but the reason it

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was named Chubb is because a geologist

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named Chubb thought it was a kimberlite

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and it was looking for diamonds and mean

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went up to just look at the geology and

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said this damn thing is an impact crater

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and uh so so here I am I'm 10 or 11

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years old I say Dad can we go drive and

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see what that crater is all about you

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know that that sort of started and from

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there I got a telescope looked at the

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moon and looked at all those craters and

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said man will I ever be able to explore

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those things

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well if fast forward now 25 years a

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career in the Navy career in high tech

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blah blah blah and finally I was in a

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position I owned an airplane at the time

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I thought what the heck let's go explore

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some craters where could I look for a

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creators well being in the RAC of course

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he documented every impact crater in

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so that's what I did I started uh flying

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over them and during the time I was

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researching it and putting it on my

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website through the rasc Royal

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um a close friend of mine actually was a

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stranger at the time contacted me and

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said I'm interested in in exploring as

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well these craters and I said oh well

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that's cool where do you live well he

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lived you know just in whole just across

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the river called Gatineau now

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and so Eric had a canoe I had an

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airplane so I could possibly go wrong

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with that let's go exploring through the

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two of us we went all over the place we

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were up in Northern Quebec uh all the

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way through Ontario with his canoe we

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our best adventure was the manaquagan

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crater if you all if you look at a map

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of Quebec and you see this big circular

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Lake that's a 214 million year old

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impact site and uh the circular Lake

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itself is only maybe less than

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two-thirds of full size of the crater

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there's a lot of physics that goes on to

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it But Eric and I actually canoed there

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and we almost didn't make it back

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okay you know you got a canoe a 30 knot

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wind with a 10 kilometer fetch kind of

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high waves and a canoe full of rocks

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what could possibly go wrong well I

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ended up we were marooned on an island

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for for over a day for almost a whole

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day uh we we as Eric was an expert canoe

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canoeist and we got on the beach I

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didn't even get my feet wet uh the way

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we got in when the surf was on the beach

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as well so but he was a white water

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canoeist he just surfed right up onto

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the beach I pulled you know stepped out

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and pulled the canoe up and we set the

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tent up and I went exploring and we

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spent uh almost the day there until the

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wind came down anyway that's that's one

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of the stories you can see it on my

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um throughout my life I've always wanted

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to explore impact craters

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and finally in retirement I was had the

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opportunity and uh my website has

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documented all the creators I've uh

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explored now I'm going to give you a

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piece of trivia here uh we're uh we're

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just uh pretend you have a car and

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you're going to go drive for one day at

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a straight line

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and stop that straight line is now a

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radius of a circle draw a circle of that

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radius with the center in Ottawa and

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within that Circle there are 10 impact

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craters you can explore

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so that in itself shows you how many

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impacts there are in our own country

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and here in Ottawa within a couple hours

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drive you can see two of them so

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yeah it's fascinating and and to look at

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these things and and see this hole in

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the ground that's you know five six

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kilometers in some cases hundreds of

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kilometers across

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you realize how much energy it took to

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within a microsecond dig this hole it's

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you gotta love community

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all your Studios disassembled is it oh

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yeah well it's it's currently in pieces

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that uh partially at my mother's house

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and partially at my at my uh my in-laws

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which is okay well if you want we can

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carry do this some other time no it'll

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new studio up and running I think we're

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window completely

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so like I know that that crater Montreal

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or not Montreal but in Quebec

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um being around 200 million years old

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you can see it basically from space so

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like yeah it's it's a giant Circle it

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looks like a lake that's around a huge

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island or that there's a huge island

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that's currently in a lake that's right

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and there there are a couple in Quebec

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like that there's more than a couple

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Quebec is is just basically Bedrock you

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know ancient billion year old Bedrock so

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this the Creator scars have stayed like

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many craters but they're all buried

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under all this uh regolith with the

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glaciers and so on whereas in Northern

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Quebec that's been scraped dry from from

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the glaciers and these craters are all

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visible so I I on one hand I could say

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there's more than five anyway probably

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closer to ten maybe in 15. well in even

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um yeah but you said there's like five

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or ten uh where like at least compared

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to where we live because you and I both

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live in the West End of the city where's

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the closest okay the closest one is

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about a hour and a half two hour drive

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and uh if you get on my website the

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directions how to get there uh are black

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and white you can get there and you sort

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this is actually a hole in the ground

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caused by an impact and and you realize

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how big it is

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and that is kind of it is very very cool

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note it's very very old

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regolith but the shape is still there

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it driving down on the other side and up

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the other side not realizing they're

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going into and out of a crater for you

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near one of the uh light pollution free

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that it's easier to be able to find

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these when you're going after an area

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that has been scraped cleaned by

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glaciers is like that most of Canada is

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that most of Canada or just like Ontario

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Canadians most of Canada I can say right

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now that most of the Canada the impact

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craters have all been discovered there's

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that being said there are a lot of

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circular geological structures around

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I'm getting emails from a lot of people

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saying I think I found an impact site

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and it's a circular Lake and so on and

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I give them instructions in how to

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actually uh identify whether it's

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whether or not it's an impact site and

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now a shadow cone is something that you

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can hold in your hand and it's visible

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shattering effect of the impact itself

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nuclear explosion there's shatter cones

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across have them anything smaller than

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that didn't have enough energy to make a

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again uh ways to identify whether or not

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you have actually found an impact site

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there are plenty of circular lakes

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around here

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that that resemble impact sites and

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you'd think holy Mack and it has to be

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but no uh unless you have firm

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identification

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they are probable problem you know and I

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have a list of probable circular Lakes

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on my site as well so if anybody uh

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feels up up with the energy take a look

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at some of the lakes that I've

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documented and look around

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um hey even with a metal detector if you

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find a meteorite beside it you've

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probably found an impact site there's a

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an impact site out in Alberta that was

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Hunters have no I know there's a small

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circular Lake for years and years he

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used it as a as a rendezvous site until

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somebody found a meteorite beside it so

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they got the geologist in and say hey

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it's an impact site so it can be

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happening you know but what about Round

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Lake

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like but I know around up north of here

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yeah no uh again we've looked at that

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one uh the geologists have looked at it

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it's from scrape Drive many scraped uh

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scraped across many times by glaciers

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and uh

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there are there's there's other signs

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like there's brecha impact melt uh

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pseudo-tacolite and so on all kinds of

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geological features that are unique to

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impact craters

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I actually I'm wrong they are not unique

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to impact creators they can be caused by

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other geological functions

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so uh you have to be very very careful

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when you identify these things but if

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you have a circular structure you find a

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meteorite beside it well chances are you

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found a crater if you found a shatter

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cone beside it then you've absolutely

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found an impact site

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so uh there are again I have a list of

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maybe 10 features that uh uh put in your

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pocket and when you go exploring in the

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bush and you run across something you

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look at this list and say hey this looks

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like that

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and give me a call and then we'll go

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look at it but your uh expertise is

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not necessarily within this field

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although

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you do have a background in electronics

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you do have a background in in

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Communications or at least from from a

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purely gonna say military standpoint

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yeah so sonar is something that's not

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foreign to you so you know how how have

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you been uh perceived even with your

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involvement of the the risc looking at

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these and when it comes to geologists or

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or other scientists yeah I am being a

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non-geologist but I am a retired

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scientist I don't know if you can see it

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here uh yeah this year right in the

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middle of the picture there it's a cover

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picture of uh technical uh uh magazine

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it's about a paper I wrote on uh failure

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analysis of integrated circuits so uh

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being that I am a Scientist I look at

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empirical evidence I uh I would look at

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any evidence and uh from that make a

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hypothesis and then from the hypothesis

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you can actually uh firm up a theory and

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then firm identification so being a

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science assistant in my background gives

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me kind of some authority to say yeah

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yeah

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um this kind of kind of knows what he's

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talking about even though I'm not a

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geologist I have to uh I have to

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um uh refer to them quite often actually

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now what about the younger driest impact

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hypothesis I know that yeah there are

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proponents on

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all sides of all sides of the uh

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conversation sometimes you know a little

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a little more aggressive than a

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conversation uh there are people who say

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that it's it's bunk and you know for any

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of the shatter cones and and

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microsphericals are you know bug poop or

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you have people that go like no it 100

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is you know there's this evidence we

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have the potential crater we have you

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know this uh Litany of sites that have

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um you know evidence to it there's the

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black mat etc etc how are you parsing

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through both of them uh and you know has

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your overall view changed over the last

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I'm going to say a couple of years since

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we were on the show last

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um okay well first of all I'll identify

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for for the audience what the younger

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drives is it's around 20 uh 12 000 years

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ago a major uh a uh if temperature event

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happened on our continent mostly on our

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continents parts of Europe and so on

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essentially uh you look at the

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temperature temperature at a major

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change uh the carbon dioxide uh had a

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major change uh atmospheric uh continent

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contents had a major change

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something happened twelve thousand years

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ago the um there was a race of

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um of First Nations uh that before this

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the younger driest they were very highly

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technologically advanced in the Stone

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Age they had very very uh unique

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arrowheads and so on and this whole

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civilization completely disappeared at

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that 12 000 year point you mentioned the

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black mat there's a there's the odd

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black mat uh uh throughout our continent

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now I'll Define a black map basically if

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you dig down and then you look at the

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cross section of the land that you've

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dug down through you'll see uh younger

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soil older soil older soil and so on you

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hit the 12 000 year point and you have

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this black

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stripe well below that stripe this

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civilization existed and above that

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stripe they disappeared

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we do not know why

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So what had caused this this major event

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now there are uh two or three craters

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just around here one in in the middle of

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Lake Ontario we think is like an impact

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crater called charity Shoal that's dated

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around that time

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there's another uh impact crater in the

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St Lawrence River just by satiel seven

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islands and it is around the date and

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then there's bloody Creek in Nova Scotia

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three impact craters around the 12 000

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year period and there have been a

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hypothesis that this is kind of related

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to the younger dryas

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so you got three events that may be

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close to what happened at that time then

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what you have are the black masks that

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are at 12 000 years then you also have

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these micro diamonds these micro

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diamonds that are unique to a very high

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energy impact

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um and they are uh spreader out uh uh in

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in the Yukon Peninsula Peninsula and

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throughout North America and again this

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the hypothesis is this these diamonds

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had been caused by uh impacts

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so with all that evidence

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there has no defined absolute impact

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that was large enough that would cause a

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whole Extinction on our continent

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hasn't been identified yet we don't know

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where it could have been a large impact

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on a glacier and of course half to the

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glacier melts the impact gone

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that is the other hypothesis

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the Ice Age was happening at 12 000

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years ago all kinds of stuff has

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it's still unknown I

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um I I began looking at all greater kind

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of evidence and I'm not convinced

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I'm not convinced of

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there's a few other hypothesis of why it

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happened and there's virtually nothing

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black and white that says yes this is it

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so to answer your question I don't know

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[Laughter]

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yeah that's that's all I got on that

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just yeah you know that's basically I

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could say there's I I've wrote a lot on

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the on the website you can probably take

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a couple hours to go through it just

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what any any uh paper that was written

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I've quoted and so on so get in there

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make your suggestions make a hypothesis

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and maybe maybe you go look and find a

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crater who knows you'll be famous and

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and where where can people find you

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okay uh Google just craterexplorer.ca

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just two words together Creator

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explorer.ca or Google my name Chuck

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Odell either one will eventually get to

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my website and then in the website uh

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you can spend days in there it's awesome

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yeah well it I I I have been and I have

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before

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um you know what Chuck let's because it

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seems that my backup uh charger is not

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working as well as I could my laptop is

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gonna die uh so I would suggest this

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um

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I'm going to go through the site and I

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know that you do have your presentation

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that has been updated since the last

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time you're on the show let me get my

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new studio up and running and we'll have

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you back in for a nice barbecue uh and a

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good PowerPoint you know several hour

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presentation

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whatever I've got uh actually I just

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recently gave a an updated uh

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presentation at Carleton University nice

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uh it's a new astronomy group that's

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started up there and they invited me in

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so I came in got free pizza and uh talk

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creators and show shadowguns and

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everything so yeah I get that

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presentation set up actually I'll send

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you the presentation Carlton you and you

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can play with them both and then oh

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perfect rock and roll from there all

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right sounds good well at least this is

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a good teaser for everybody yeah uh so

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you know at least you guys got a treat

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and you know I got a 20 minute

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commercial for what's gonna be a very

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fun and uh hopefully informative

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and

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um I might have to do this on a Friday

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so I don't have to go anywhere the next

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day yeah so in the meantime just Google

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craterexplorer.ca all right ladies and

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gentlemen thank you very much and I'll

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I'll see you uh hopefully tomorrow